Grateful Dead Live at The Centrum on 1983-10-21
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- 1983-10-21 ( check for other copies)
- Topics
- Matrix, Soundboard, Hunter Seamons
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- GratefulDead
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- DeadLists Project
Set 1
The Music Never Stopped, Loser, CC Rider-> Cumberland Blues, Cassidy, Ramble On Rose, My Brother Esau, Big Railroad Blues-> Promised Land
Set 2
Scarlet Begonias-> Fire On The Mountain, Uncle John's Band-> Playin' In The Band-> Drums-> Truckin'-> Wharf Rat-> I Need A Miracle-> Touch Of Gray, E: Johnny B. Goode
The Music Never Stopped, Loser, CC Rider-> Cumberland Blues, Cassidy, Ramble On Rose, My Brother Esau, Big Railroad Blues-> Promised Land
Set 2
Scarlet Begonias-> Fire On The Mountain, Uncle John's Band-> Playin' In The Band-> Drums-> Truckin'-> Wharf Rat-> I Need A Miracle-> Touch Of Gray, E: Johnny B. Goode
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Song Title | Versions | Compilations | Covers |
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The Music Never Stopped | |||
Loser | |||
C.C. Rider | |||
Cumberland Blues | |||
Cassidy | |||
Ramble on Rose | |||
My Brother Esau | |||
Big Railroad Blues -> | |||
Promised Land | |||
Scarlet Begonias -> | |||
Fire on the Mountain | |||
Uncle John's Band -> | |||
Playing in the Band -> | |||
Drums -> | |||
Space -> | |||
Truckin' -> | |||
Wharf Rat -> | |||
I Need a Miracle -> | |||
Touch of Grey | |||
Johnny B. Goode |
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- 2010-01-13 01:02:05
- Identifier
- gd1983-10-21.mtx.seamons.105419.flac16
- Location
- Worcester, MA
- Run time
- 180:30.42
- Transferred by
- Hunter Seamons
- Type
- sound
- Venue
- The Centrum
- Year
- 1983
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Reviewer:
sdesmond
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December 22, 2020
Subject: Big RXR Blues !
Subject: Big RXR Blues !
hearing the Big Railroad Blues for the first time and Jerry keeps going and going. Based on the great sound, and the energy there, I am going to favorite this to listen to the full show later and give 'er the ol' 5 stars !
Reviewer:
Double Dose
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December 13, 2020
Subject: Powdered show
Subject: Powdered show
I was at this show on the floor for set one. I remember it striking me then as frenetic and unsettled. And this show still strikes me that way. I think there was likely too much coke snorted, especially by Billy and Bobby. I mean, listen to Billy's kick drum on the left channel; hardly a clean performance, and the kick certainly wasn't being played for the overall music of the collective band. Rather it was being overplayed and hyper...ie a byproduct of a few too many lines? As for Bobby, he just didn't feel like cooperating with Jerry on this night. He was over baring with his communication via his rhythm playing; over amped at time, and too insistent on his way. Quite a few mistakes throughout by Bobby too, and Man his slide solo on CC...ugh....particularly dreadful. He screwed up the crescendo on Trucking. And Playin' is pretty much a mess. Jerry played pretty well throughout as did Phil. But there are far better "83 shows than this. '83 Greeks, and Santa Fe were exceptional.
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GrimTaper
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October 22, 2016
Subject: More than made up for the night before!
Subject: More than made up for the night before!
Somehow this ended up being the last show from 1983 that I hadn't listened to yet. Just finished listening to it, and it's probably my favorite show of 1983. It's quite a contrast with the night before, which seemed sleepy and sloppy to me.
In 1983, I only attended the Greek shows, the Frost shows, one of the Hult shows, one of the Warfield shows (3/31), and the New Years' run, and those were all pretty good, but here's my list of favorite '83 shows:
3/29/83, 4/12/83, 4/13/83, 4/19/83, 4/23/83, 6/18/83, 9/13/83, & 10/21/83, which was Brent's 31st birthday, and has a very nice Drums>Space, among other gems...okay, 5/15 & 8/21 probably make the list, but I haven't heard those in a while. (Also, I'm pretty sure the Terrapin on 8/30 was the only time they jammed for a bit after the coda, then came BACK to the coda.)
Anyway, thank you Hunter Seamons for making such a nice upload.
In 1983, I only attended the Greek shows, the Frost shows, one of the Hult shows, one of the Warfield shows (3/31), and the New Years' run, and those were all pretty good, but here's my list of favorite '83 shows:
3/29/83, 4/12/83, 4/13/83, 4/19/83, 4/23/83, 6/18/83, 9/13/83, & 10/21/83, which was Brent's 31st birthday, and has a very nice Drums>Space, among other gems...okay, 5/15 & 8/21 probably make the list, but I haven't heard those in a while. (Also, I'm pretty sure the Terrapin on 8/30 was the only time they jammed for a bit after the coda, then came BACK to the coda.)
Anyway, thank you Hunter Seamons for making such a nice upload.
Reviewer:
jimmy jazz
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September 15, 2015
Subject: My First Show
Subject: My First Show
3 of us drove to Worcester from Vassar College in Poughkeepsie NY for this show. I was the only Dead virgin. Being very immersed in the NYC CBGB/Max's punk scene this was all very new to me. Not a lot of clear memories due to the amount of LSD we had ingested, but I remember my face hurting from the permagrin, and being blown away with the power of the Scarlet > Fire, which due to that memory remains one of my favorite song combos to this day. Love this matrix, every time I listen I am transported back to my 21 year old self being opened up to the entire Dead scene/family. Definitely a life changing experience for me.
Reviewer:
jakstraw
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April 20, 2015
Subject: I LOVE KICK DRUM!!
Subject: I LOVE KICK DRUM!!
I'm sorry, folks, but kick drum and all, this is the smokingest Scarlet-Fire of the 80's! Some body give me another that matches this intensity...The buildup starting at 9:45 and the crescendo at about 11:00 is one of "those" Jerry Goosebump moments that he doesn't hit too often....This jam goes on and on, with plinkity-plinking Brent right on Jerry's heals..."This one goes to Eleven"
I got this tape in 1991 and played it to death...
I got this tape in 1991 and played it to death...
Reviewer:
jjg4762
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October 2, 2014
Subject: Honor
Subject: Honor
I use the word honor because it really REALLY is when I listen back to such a powerful sound as this here. 25 stars on this one
Reviewer:
Folkhippy
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August 8, 2013
Subject: Almost a Dave's Pick, if it weren't for the kick drum
Subject: Almost a Dave's Pick, if it weren't for the kick drum
Dave Lemieux mentioned this show in a recent Q&A video interview. Many Deadheads complain that there has only been one release from '83 out of all the different DP/RT/DP series. David states that it isn't because he or his staff dislikes music from '83, it's the piss poor mixes of the two-track tapes which, despite the miracles of modern audio wizardry, can't be fixed.
In the interview, David talks about an amazing show from '83 that is exceptional in all respects; however, in the mix, there is a major level issue with one of the kick drum mics. THIS IS THE SHOW! Listening to this tape, it is quite apparent that the left channel features about 30% band mix and 70% kick drum! TICK TICK TICK. It's incredibly annoying! Now I know what he was talking about. This is supposed to be one of the best shows from the early '80s, but all I can hear is that damn kick drum.
Apparently, because these are two-track tapes, you can't go in and just 'turn the kick drum down.' It would wipe out the whole track, not just the kick. Too bad.
If only Betty was still on board in '83 . . . What a year it was.
In the interview, David talks about an amazing show from '83 that is exceptional in all respects; however, in the mix, there is a major level issue with one of the kick drum mics. THIS IS THE SHOW! Listening to this tape, it is quite apparent that the left channel features about 30% band mix and 70% kick drum! TICK TICK TICK. It's incredibly annoying! Now I know what he was talking about. This is supposed to be one of the best shows from the early '80s, but all I can hear is that damn kick drum.
Apparently, because these are two-track tapes, you can't go in and just 'turn the kick drum down.' It would wipe out the whole track, not just the kick. Too bad.
If only Betty was still on board in '83 . . . What a year it was.
Reviewer:
Slarti
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December 13, 2011
Subject: i dont know now
Subject: i dont know now
i just dont know
if i'm go'in back again :o :)
if i'm go'in back again :o :)
Reviewer:
73vw
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October 21, 2011
Subject: Fall Madness!!!
Subject: Fall Madness!!!
This show was a scorcher thru and thru!! First run at Worcester....Fall 83 may have been the best tour of the Brent Years, IMHO, definitely some of the best, most intense energy of the early 80's.....the Stephen(s), Placid, everything!! This not withstanding, killer music/cumberland/cassidy!!..Scarlet/Fire/UJB!!!
saw this/Hartford's/Dome w/ Band!!!! was 18 years old! This is an amazing recording of an epic show....Sage/Spirit riffs outta space. Amazing....!
saw this/Hartford's/Dome w/ Band!!!! was 18 years old! This is an amazing recording of an epic show....Sage/Spirit riffs outta space. Amazing....!
Reviewer:
Furthurite
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January 25, 2011
Subject: Heaven!!
Subject: Heaven!!
I was leaning against the big floor stack of speakers on Phil's side for this entire show. Walked over to Centrum tripping ever step of the way from SAE frat house on WPI. This whole show is in my bones and will say there forever. Great setlist at 3 hours long. Perfect for my long strange orange sunshine/pyramid trip. Does any body else remember the clear pyramid acid that was going around shakedown street?...yummy times.
I saw every show the Dead played at the Centrum
and this stands alone for me...during this particular sequence of Space i was being sucked through a vortex of ambient fire an out of body visual experience standing right by the huge floor stack feeling the bass in my cheast pounding and my feet shaking. Relaxed just watching Jerry...ahhhhhh
I saw every show the Dead played at the Centrum
and this stands alone for me...during this particular sequence of Space i was being sucked through a vortex of ambient fire an out of body visual experience standing right by the huge floor stack feeling the bass in my cheast pounding and my feet shaking. Relaxed just watching Jerry...ahhhhhh
Reviewer:
TheProdigalSon
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January 25, 2011
Subject: security guards left
Subject: security guards left
one of first shows i think at centrum - loved 'em....security guards left at
intermission - didn't understand deadheads
3hrs!!
intermission - didn't understand deadheads
3hrs!!
Reviewer:
Marty Puch
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January 19, 2011
Subject: This is fun.
Subject: This is fun.
Before I read the reviews, I thought, boy this could use a Terrapin.
Reviewer:
SomeDarkHollow
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January 18, 2011
Subject: Fire Away
Subject: Fire Away
Not much to say other than this show more than lives up to the promise put forth by the amazing set list. One highlight after another, with, for me, the Fire taking the gold medal. Combine that with another bit of excellent work from Mr. Seamons and you've got an amazing show.
Reviewer:
patkelleyPA
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January 18, 2011
Subject: penultimate setlist
Subject: penultimate setlist
all this needs is a terrapin and it would be the ultimate setlist. beautiful transfer, beautiful music.
Reviewer:
bbhsu2
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May 21, 2010
Subject: fall 83
Subject: fall 83
phil lesh in his book wrote that in the early 80's, the band was really slipping down a slope of drugs. he said himself that he would have beer for breakfast and if he woke up hung over, hed take a line or two. whatever jerry does in this time period changes himself forever as well.
Some of these jams seem to go on forever with no end. BRxR, Cumberland and Scarlet Fire just keep going and going, but it keeps getting better and better. I wish they could have kept going on like this forever but it doesnt work that way.
Mr Seamons has some great taste and has made great matrices. This is one of them!
Some of these jams seem to go on forever with no end. BRxR, Cumberland and Scarlet Fire just keep going and going, but it keeps getting better and better. I wish they could have kept going on like this forever but it doesnt work that way.
Mr Seamons has some great taste and has made great matrices. This is one of them!
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